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ssheldon
Posted on 01/11/13 11:07:32
Number of posts: 9
ssheldon posts:

I have  a question about when to use Multiblock PLS vs Behaviour PLS. If you wanted to explore the connectivity of a seed and how this connectivity is reflected by task, would it be better to use Multiblock rather than Behaviour PLS?

Thanks so much,
Signy

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jshen
Posted on 01/11/13 11:10:35
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jshen replies:

If you wanted to explore the connectivity of a seed and how this connectivity is reflected by task, you should use Seed PLS:

http://www.rotman-baycrest.on.ca/pls/userguide.htm#_Toc303956393




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ssheldon
Posted on 01/11/13 11:21:01
Number of posts: 9
ssheldon replies:

Thanks for your quick reply! In a previous post is was noted that "Multiblock is a combination of task PLS and behaviour PLS and is meant to identify spatiotemporal patterns that simultaneously reflect activity differences and relate to some aspect of behaviour". I guess I am just a little confused as to what situations multiblock is better to be used than bPLS (either with a seed to look at connectivity or with behaviour)?


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jshen
Posted on 01/11/13 11:26:51
Number of posts: 291
jshen replies:

Multiblock is a combination of task PLS and behaviour PLS. However, if you want to explore the connectivity of a seed and how this connectivity is reflected by task, it is better to use Seed PLS: Of cause, you can try multiblock, but I don't know whether it is better or not.



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rmcintosh
Posted on 01/11/13 11:51:47
Number of posts: 394
rmcintosh replies:

quote:
Thanks for your quick reply! In a previous post is was noted that "Multiblock is a combination of task PLS and behaviour PLS and is meant to identify spatiotemporal patterns that simultaneously reflect activity differences and relate to some aspect of behaviour". I guess I am just a little confused as to what situations multiblock is better to be used than bPLS (either with a seed to look at connectivity or with behaviour)?
hi signy to be clear, multiblock is *only* when you want to combine a task PLS with behavior/seed PLS. Running the seed PLS will tell you whether a pattern of functional connectivity differs by task/group, so if your question is just that, stick with seed PLS (as run with the 'behavior' module). I hope that's clear cheers Randy


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ssheldon
Posted on 01/11/13 14:21:13
Number of posts: 9
ssheldon replies:

Thank you for your response. I may still be a bit confused as to when multiblock is a good idea. Just to clarify, if I wanted to how a seed voxel (e.g., a voxel in the the hippocampus)  was connected functionally to the rest and the brain and if this dfifered between experimental conditions, I would used bPLS. If I wanted to know if activity in this seed voxel recruited distinctive networks for conditions (e.g. task demands), I would used multiblock?

Best,
Signy




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rmcintosh
Posted on 01/11/13 14:57:20
Number of posts: 394
rmcintosh replies:

quote:
Thank you for your response. I may still be a bit confused as to when multiblock is a good idea. Just to clarify, if I wanted to how a seed voxel (e.g., a voxel in the the hippocampus)  was connected functionally to the rest and the brain and if this dfifered between experimental conditions, I would used bPLS. If I wanted to know if activity in this seed voxel recruited distinctive networks for conditions (e.g. task demands), I would used multiblock?

Best,
Signy


Not exactly, but close :) perhaps think about it in terms of input to PLS. For task PLS, you are always looking at changes in mean activity between tasks/groups (activations), so you input mean activity for behav/seed PLS, you are looking and changes (or similarities) in correlations between tasks/groups (functional connectivity in the case of seed PLS), so you input correlations the multiblock allows you to identify spatial maps that represent the intersection of activations and functional connectivity, where you input means and correlations To answer you questions as to whether the hippocampus recruited distinct networks for conditions, you would always use bPLS (its actually the same as asking whether functional connectivity w the hippocampus differs across conditons). That question requires analysis of correlations. is that getting closer? Randy


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ssheldon
Posted on 01/18/13 12:15:56
Number of posts: 9
ssheldon replies:

Thank you for your reply. I *think* I got it now! One last question, what types of questions are best answered with multiblock?

Thanks again,
Signy



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rmcintosh
Posted on 01/18/13 12:38:30
Number of posts: 394
rmcintosh replies:

quote:
Thank you for your reply. I *think* I got it now! One last question, what types of questions are best answered with multiblock?

Thanks again,
Signy

Anytime you want to link activation analysis to brain/behavior or functional connectivity.  For example, if you see an activation pattern, say task vs basline, you may also want to know how that pattern of activity differences relates to task performance.  You would thus include something like accuracy in the multiblock and identify the pattern of activations that predicts good/bad performance and those patterns that do not.



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